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Seneca
07-27-2002, 09:38 AM
US RAVE Act.

US Senate to Pass Anti Rave / Club Law.



No US nightclub owner, promoter, or event coordinator is safe. This bill could halt musical events such as raves in the United States.
The US Senate is poised to pass legislation that would give federal prosecutors new powers to shut down raves or other musical events and punish innocent business men and women for hosting or promoting them. The bill, known as the Reducing American's Vulnerability to Ecstasy Act (RAVE Act), was just introduced in the Senate on June 18th and has already passed the Senate Judiciary Committee. It is moving VERY rapidly and could be passed by the Senate as early as next week. Worse still, the Senate leadership considers this draconian drug war bill to be so uncontroversial that they are trying to pass it under "unanimous consent" rules, which will mean no debate and no real vote. It is absolutely vital that your Senators hear from you today. They need to know that this bill is a danger to civil liberties and is unacceptable.

ACTIONS TO TAKE:

--Call your Senators and tell them to stop S. 2633, the Reducing American's Vulnerability to Ecstasy Act from becoming law. Tell them that innocent business owners shouldn't be punished for the crimes of their customers. Tell them this bill has dangerous anti-civil liberties provisions that they need to be aware of, and this bill deserves serious debate.

To find out who your Senators are go to: http://www.senate.gov/senators/senator_by_state.cfm (To see the actual bill go to search page - then go to search number-then type S.2633)


ARIZONA STATE SENATORS:

JON KYL
Washington, D.C.
730 Hart Senate Building
Washington, D.C. 20510
Phone: (202) 224-4521
Fax: (202) 224-2207

Phoenix
2200 East Camelback, Suite 120
Phoenix, Arizona 85016-3455
Phone: (602) 840-1891
Fax: (602) 957-6838
Tucson
7315 North Oracle Road, Suite 220
Tucson, Arizona 85704
Phone: (520) 575-8633
Fax: (520) 797-3232
JOHN McCAIN:

Senator John McCain241 Russell Senate Ofc. Bldg.United States SenateWashington, D.C. 20510 Phone # (202) 224-2235Fax # (202) 228-2862TDD # (202) 224-7132E-mail address: John_McCain@McCain.senate.gov
While you are in Washington, my office is open to you from 9:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. Monday - Friday (except federal holidays). We are located in Room 241 of the Russell Senate Building, which is located at the corner of Constitution and Delaware Avenues, right across from the Capitol Building to the north. The closest metro stop is Union Station, which is located on the red line (Click here for Metro rail map). It will drop you off just a few blocks from my office and the Capitol.


PLEASE SEND THEM AN EMAIL OR MESSAGE TELLING THEM TO VOTE AGAINST S. 2633 known as Reducing American's Vulnerability to Ecstasy Act (RAVE Act).

MORE ON THE BILL

S. 2633, sponsored by Senators Durbin (D-IL), Hatch (R-UT), Grassley (R-IA) and Leahy (D-VT), would greatly expand the so-called "crack house statute" and potentially subject innocent business men and women to enormous fines if customers sold or used drugs on their premises or at their events - even if they were not involved in the offenses in any way. If the bill becomes law, property owners, promoters, and event coordinators could be fined hundreds of thousands of dollars if they hold raves or other events on their property. This bill is a part of a Justice Department strategy to halt all musical events they don't like, such as raves. For more information on this bill, go to http://thomas.loc.gov/ and under "bill number" search for S2633.


Letter\FAX\Email message to give to AZ senators:
(You can add or take away from this letter as you see fit)
Dear [Decision Maker],
I'm writing to warn you about the dangers to civil liberties and property rights in S. 2633, the Reducing American's Vulnerability to Ecstasy Act (the RAVE Act). This bill, which could be voted on very soon, would allow the federal government to fine or imprison businessmen and women if they fail to stop their customers from using or selling drugs on their premises or at their events. The RAVE Act unfairly punishes business owners for the crimes of their customers and is unprecedented in U.S. history. The federal government can't even keep drugs out of its own prisons, yet this law fines business owners hundreds of thousands of dollars for failing to keep people from carrying drugs onto their premises.

S. 2633 is a danger to innocent businessmen and women, especially restaurant and nightclub owners, concert promoters, landlords, and real estate managers. Section 4 of the bill goes so far as to allow the federal government to charge property owners civilly, thus allowing prosecutors to fine property owners $250,000 (and put them out of business) without having to meet the higher standard of proof in criminal cases that is needed to protect innocent people.

Health advocates worry that the bill will endanger our nation's youth. If enacted, licensed and law-abiding business owners may stop hosting raves and other musical events, out of fear of massive fines and prison sentences. Thus, the RAVE Act will drive raves and other musical events further underground and away from public health and safety regulations. It would also discourage business owners from enacting important measures to protect their customers. By insinuating that selling bottled water and offering "cool off" rooms is proof that owners and promoters know drug use is occurring at their events, this bill may make business owners too afraid to implement such harm-reduction measures, and the safety of our kids will suffer.

In short, this bill is too controversial and too broadly written to be passed without debate. I urge you to do everything possible to stop it from becoming law.

Sincerely,
[Your name]
[Your address]


-- please don't let this go it could mean the end of electronic music in the US!!!

squared
07-27-2002, 10:39 AM
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Officer McGruff says, "This is an inappropriate forum for this thread."

Seneca
07-27-2002, 10:51 AM
How can you say that, this EFFECTS all producers. What are producers going to do if electronica is banned in the US. I mean it can still be sold at record stores.. but dj's won't exist in the US, only underground dj's will, and they can close ANY PLACE that even has a flier for a rave. I think this is a very appropriate thread.

kid kryptic
07-27-2002, 11:08 AM
I'm not going to stop producing just cause raves are in trouble! I'm sure there will still be DJ's buying records somewhere in the world. There are more markets for producers than just the US.

Australia, UK(of course) pretty much anywhere in Europe, Asia, South America, Africa...the list goes on, and on, and on, and on...

Seneca
07-27-2002, 11:15 AM
Who do you think plays those peices of vinyl you produce? ..and everyone now, why do people listen to electronic music and buy electronica records? ANSWER: There are Electronic music EVENTS, not just raves. I think that is what you people do not understand. IT EFFECTS ALL CLUBS, RAVE PROMOTERS, ETC, ETC. SOON THE MUSIC COULD BE BANNED BECAUSE IT PROMOTES A LIFE STYLE!!!

Fight for your gawd damn rights people.
WE HAVE THE RIGHT OF ASSEMBLY!!! IT'S IN THE CONSTITUTION!!!

Now we need to use our freedom of speech to KEEP our freedom of assembly...

Seneca
07-27-2002, 11:29 AM
Dude.. fight for the right for the US to keep electronica. If you don't then why the fuck are you producing? Seriously, WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU PRODUCING IF YOU AREN'T GOING TO FIGHT FOR YOUR RIGHTS?

kid kryptic
07-27-2002, 11:38 AM
why am i producing?

Well lets see...I love music. I love the art of music in itself. I produce because it is my outlet of my feelings..good and bad.

When i get up a 7 in the moring..what is the first thing i do...hmmm. It's working on my music. I am working on my music so god damn much i no longer have a real social life.

Yeah, i think the whole issue sucks, but do you really think it is going to stop artists from producing their music...their art??

I'm not saying that this is a good thing that the government is doing. And yes, i will probably do something about it.

But, you said, "What are producers going to do if electronica is banned in the US?"

And I gave you an answer.

Seneca
07-27-2002, 11:46 AM
and all i'm asking is that you do something.. I gave you the letter, all you have to do is send it by mail, fax, or email. If you don't I'm asking you why are you producing?

For the love of fawk start a patition.

It's also really funny that rap uses the phrase, "takein that ecstasy." In almost every fawkin song.. why aren't they cracking down on the rap culture like they are raves.. in rap it talks about raping your mom and shooting your dog, wtf you know.

shabda
07-27-2002, 12:22 PM
nobody gives a shit about small businesses. POLOTICS is a much bigger BUSINESS. WAR is how large people make money.

*U-OME*
07-27-2002, 02:50 PM
please do not use the word "electronica" on this board ever again. this board is for DnB + Jungle and not "MTV-1997-trying to fit all music made with electronics into one category-mass marketing scheme" word........

squared
07-27-2002, 03:16 PM
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squared
07-27-2002, 03:17 PM
Fact is.., this shit won't die, 'cuz I won't let it. -end-