Worst things about the local music scene

[Consumer]

1. What scene?
2. The Lucky Dragon Bathroom
3. The Electric Ballroom & Gibson's are gone, yet Long Wongs is still standing.
4. Artificial Culture (aka, Scottsdale Club Crowd)

[king egorock]

1am curfew

[Preecha]

lol #4 is sooooooo true. How can one stand to be apart of that???

[Consumer]

I guess there's nothing wrong with being all about your looks and who knows you, what car you drive, etc. - diffrn't strokes and all that. Most of the people are good fine citzens... its just the few who act like they are some type of demigod (ie, "don't you know who I am? I must be on the list!") that ruin it for the whole lot.

[Castor]

No enthusiasum
Slow progression
Low people in high places
Wannabee LA cokeheadz
ETC....

:(

[kid kryptic]

so far everyone i have met has been one hell of a nice guy...of course, i'm probably not around when they talk all kinds of shit about me behind my back ;)

[Consumer]

Originally posted by Castor
Low people in high places


:laughing :laughing

[pimP sAuCy]

:rinse2

i hate ppl makin ways to keep da
"PARTY" goin.like new doper dan dope
ways to waste ur life away.fyi---this
sicker dan sick message board..what ever
happened to bike riding n feeding da ducks??
or real hobbies like rc racing...or playin real intruments
??::frowns::: nah haha just messin sicker dan sick .
only reason i joined was cause castor did..big ups to da beta blocker n ice storm 12"..got it autographed yea yea.
plur to ur mommys abel-

[Ill.ek.tro.bot]

whats wrong w/ the bathroom at LD? Graffitti is one of the key elements of this underground culture we all strive to support,right?Displaying art only encourages other artists to participate.

[Consumer]

There's nothing wrong with grafitti - but in a bathroom? Tagging toilet seats? Floors? http://www.dogsonacid.com/images/smilies/puke.gif

Not to mention the already long wait to get in there, and to think the hold up is some toy writing some busted-ass tag?

[ana]

(#4) haha! take '944 magazine' for example...an official publication where you can find out which clubs are playing dj dookiepants-do you think you're better off alone (rmx) this weekend. i was given a free issue on campus and the only thing that made it worth reading was the free vibrator coupon in the back. STOOPS!

[king egorock]

what about this!
http://www.sub-conscious.com/board/showthread.php?s=&threadid=141

:D

[KYFA]

well I think that riding bikes and racing quads and wake boarding and snowboarding etc,,,,,, is fun too..
but there is nothing wrong with the abiltiy to find out about people in your city and stuff to do without having to go to some lame ass club and deal with a bunch of idiots first hand, to find out it sux.. Besides whats wrong with a little intellect,
The local scene is doing pretty good , its getting more organized and ,structured..
People are learning from their mistakes and making it better.
I guest what sux about the scene is the mainstream clubs with all the quidos, and stuck up attitude B.S.. But that shit is always going to exist and I dont have to go there if I dont want to.....
everybody gets comfortable playing follow the leader,,, you gota be the leader to follow..

[Preecha]

Scene needs more hot/spiritual/djing gurls!

All those other points you guys made are moot.

[Zero]

Lack of unity...

[ana]

I wouldn't say all the other points are moot. They are points, after all. It shouldn't be all about girls. We're great and all, but we're hardly the answer to the underlying problems. The big picture will only become apparent if all of the contributing factors are recognized. Attitude and image obsession, obviously results of self-consciousness, are definitely holding us back.

Easy:menacing

[Preecha]

Haha im BSing. Vibrator coupon????????? :laughing

[f3/\r teh Phorced Access]

Who wants to come drop some beats??? I have 1200s and a djm500... you can record your set.... drink beer... eat bbq... wtf you are down to do.... So far I have only met Ariel and no other phx dnb djs.... Im at cactus and tatum..... If you wanna throw down dome tracks lemme know....

Dj Access (kim)
602-421-4916


:banana

[Wes]

Trance.

Ketamine.

Teenagers who think they know everything about the "rave scene".

Trance.

Stupid little kids.

Drugs.


and Trance fucking sucks.


*Waiting till 3:30 to play a set and having to listen to trance,and watching stupid kids do drugs has to be the worst.Last night sucked.*

:raging :down :raging

[Flagrant]

The tremendous following for trance music... :reload



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[Empress]

Originally posted by ana
It shouldn't be all about girls.
Easy:menacing [/B]

You're right it shouldn't be all about girls, but where girls are guys follow. I feel that holds DnB scenes back in a sense of flourishment because what guys want to go to a sausage fest? It is about the music but yet on the other hand think about the friendships that you have made because of DnB. You go out to listen to good choons and hang out with people that share the same feeling about the music that you do.

[Geneyus]

From what I've seen and all the parties I've gone; the promoting is the worst thing about the scene out here.

Honesty is the best policy for a promotions crew! Don't try and be something you aren't and nobodys' goin 2b disappointed with what you don't got!

[ana]

You're right it shouldn't be all about girls, but where girls are guys follow. I feel that holds DnB scenes back in a sense of flourishment because what guys want to go to a sausage fest? It is about the music but yet on the other hand think about the friendships that you have made because of DnB. You go out to listen to good choons and hang out with people that share the same feeling about the music that you do.

Right...the original post I had commented on was suggesting that the only bad part about the scene was the lack of "hot girls"...any guy who's interested in dnb is going to go out regardless of whether there are girls there or not, so it's hardly what's holding the scene back. Hot girls have nothing to do with the downfalls of the scene. The lack of unity is, however, a contributing factor...and is perhaps more on point with what you're talking about.

ez

[some guy]

the worst thing i see about this scene is people forgetting why they are at the venue and listening to the dj they are the music.....
nothin else to say i guess ill go away

[Diosa]

1.) All of the Trance
2.) All of the haters
3.) Promoters

Hey and i'm new...but I would like to know more about the free vibrator coupon! A girl can always use another vibrator!!!

[ana]

well, if you're familiar with scottsdale, stop into some store like liquid clothing, or somewhere similar where guys can get black shiny double-knit poly "goin' out" shirts with flames on them, and you'll probably find a stack of 944 magazines. in the back, they have many dope coupons, among which is one for a free vibrator from fascinations adult boutique. let's get GRIMEY! :menacing

EZ

[NAPPSTA]

YALL ARE CRAZY!!!!!!!!!:bounce :beer :reload

[NAPPSTA]

YO ACCES WE CAN GET DOWN ANYTIME I LIVE ON 7st and bell..lets do this whats your styleee???????:slayer :spliff :spliff

[mS. ThAnG]

1)The Snottsdale scene is such a joke and the The Cat Eye is an even bigger joke w/ top forty hip hop....

2) In the underground scene I can not stand the dj groupies who are trying to hard to fuck your man if he is a dj. No respect!

3) The curfew... nuff said...

[KYFA]

Originally posted by mS. ThAnG
1)The Snottsdale scene is such a joke and the The Cat Eye is an even bigger joke w/ top forty hip hop....

2) In the underground scene I can not stand the dj groupies who are trying to hard to fuck your man if he is a dj. No respect!

3) The curfew... nuff said...

the curfew, Are you talking about Beer O Clock , or an actual Curfew?

:D

[KYFA]

never mind. you have to be talking about beer o clock
my bad.
Its just sounds weird, being put as a curfew..
I agree though , 1 am sux a fatty..
im on vacation in cali right now, and the "curfew" makes a big difference,
I get way more shitty out here than I do in PHX
the other day I had the worst hangover ive ever had in my life..
No Joke EVER!!
I got sick the next day.. Im a recovering ALC'y and Ive never gotten sick the next day.. I really had to be loaded the night before.
I was getting free drinks by the nights end.. and cant put my finger on how many I had,,, ("recovering ALC'y) my ASS!
sorry I could have a conversation with myself sometimes..
anyways ..:beer :beer :beer :beer :beer :beer :beer :beer :raging

[mS. ThAnG]

The actual 1am curfew. Never heard of beer o' clock....

[craig]

jeezus where have you been. beer 'o'clock is standard jargon these days

[mS. ThAnG]

DIS BIATCH BEEN OUT DA SCENE A WHILE.

[pimP sAuCy]

:lighter

theres 3 thingS wrong with our scene.

#1HATERS
#2 HATERS
#3PURIST CLOSE MINDEDNESS

ABel-

[mS. ThAnG]

I HEARD A LITTLE RUMOR THAT MOST DRUM AND BASS AND JUNGLE LISTENERS DO NOT LIKE HIP HOP AT ALL. WHAT'S UP W/ THAT? TO ME DRUM AND BASS SOUNDS LIKE HIP HOP THAT IS JUST FASTER AND LOUDER. AND THERE ARE STILL HATERS OF EAST COAST MUSIC OUT THERE.. WHAT'S THAT ABOUT. IT'S ANNOYING WHEN SOME OPINIONS OF MUSIC MAY ACTUALLY HOLD PEOPLE BACK FROM PROGRESSING AS ARTIST IF YOU ARE A DJ OR MC OR PROMOTER. HEY EVEN THOUGH HIP HOP IS GOING THROUGH A COMMERCIAL PHASE DOESN'T MEAN IT SUKS.

I'M A HIP HOPPER FOR LIFE, THROW UP THE DUB!!!!!

[king egorock]

i think most people like hip hop...personally i do. i grew up in detroit in the early 80's and was raised on it. on the otherhand i am not sure i want to have hiiip hop blanketed over dnb. the reason i gravitated from hip hop to dnb was i was bored of expectations being imposed upon me to have to be involved in the culture. when i got into dnb i was not cool or popular. now that it has gained that popularity i'd hate for it run the same road of current hip hop. but that is just my opinion....only my opinion .
the scene is gonna go its own direction it always has.

[mS. ThAnG]

dnb is the sickest when it is mixed w/ hip hop!!!!
reggae sounds even iller. SO WHAT EVA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[mS. ThAnG]

....and expectations?... as what a dj,dancer,mc, if you have talent why worry about what others think just rock like you want. see me, i don't need to be down w/ any crew to get off on some music...shit i'll roll solo and chill. i never unstood people who feel they need to be so clicky when it comes to alll the little scenes in AZ. i'm not trying to talk shit but a lot of people take themselves way to serious when it comes to this shit and I THINK ITs SOOOOOO FUNNY!!!!


eat naked!

[ana]

umm...oooookay...

[king egorock]

Originally posted by mS. ThAnG
....and expectations?... as what a dj,dancer,mc, if you have talent why worry about what others think just rock like you want. see me, i don't need to be down w/ any crew to get off on some music...shit i'll roll solo and chill. i never unstood people who feel they need to be so clicky when it comes to alll the little scenes in AZ.

i'm not worried what they think...just the opposite...almost to a fault. since your so down for anything how come i haven't seen to rolling solo and getting down when i'm spinning dub influenced uk garage and breakstep in scottsdale? if you roll as you say you do you should be able to get down there too, right?
shit i'll even buy you a drink if you show up this sunday.

in case you weren't aware we start sub:con every week with something other than dnb. usually hip hop, soul or dub.


the expectations i was refering to were image verses music. the same as i enjoy rave music but don't particularly want to hang out w/ e-tards chomping on a pacifier.


don't worry though it ain't nuthin' but a thang.

[mS. ThAnG]

IT'S LIKE THE TREAD ASKED; "WORST THINGS ABOUT THE LOCAL MUSIC SCENE" JUST MORE DIVERSITY I GUESS IS WHAT WAS MY THANG. ALTHOUGH I AM UNCLEAR TO YOU :SOLO" COMMENT MY EXPECTATIONS ARE MERELY TO GET ROCKED WHEN ANY DJ'S ARE SPINNING.

BUT LIKE YOU SAID IT AIN'T NOTHING BUT A THANG...

[ana]

Originally posted by mS. ThAnG
IT'S LIKE THE TREAD ASKED; "WORST THINGS ABOUT THE LOCAL MUSIC SCENE" JUST MORE DIVERSITY I GUESS IS WHAT WAS MY THANG. ALTHOUGH I AM UNCLEAR TO YOU :SOLO" COMMENT MY EXPECTATIONS ARE MERELY TO GET ROCKED WHEN ANY DJ'S ARE SPINNING.

BUT LIKE YOU SAID IT AIN'T NOTHING BUT A THANG...

easy on the caps...where's your netiquette, young lady? :menacing

[mS. ThAnG]

what? i was just writing back in to egos comment about why i haven't been out to see him spin in scottdale. no disrespect at all damn!
who's being negative? i like what he has to say and what he spins :slayer

[mS. ThAnG]

and what's this young lady... it MS. THANG!:bounce

[ana]

Originally posted by mS. ThAnG
and what's this young lady... it MS. THANG!:bounce

hmm...i can only deduce that you missed the point of my post.

[mS. ThAnG]

probably...i thought you were saying i was being rude.sorry:menacing

[pimP sAuCy]

:king

" groupies trying to fuck ur man"
ha ha ha

but wasnt dat how U started?
yo yo ur so hott n u spin so dope..hehe ::evil grin.

plur to ur mommys abel-

ps:hey u just playing someone elses music)

[mS. ThAnG]

:raging :raging :raging :raging :raging

first of all i met my man, who happens to be the doppest dj out there,at fucking ihop and never even heard his shit SO STEP!!! And I never saw so many nut riders in my life until stepped into that scene and realized how women degrade themselves to feel cool about hangin w a dj.

and you don't even know who you are talking to so just go ahead and dip out w/ that lame sauce! :fu MOTHAFUCKA!!!!!

[king egorock]

i'm a vocalist ho for suont!!!!:love :love :love :domokun

[mS. ThAnG]

:laughing :laughing :laughing :laughing :laughing :laughing :laughing



that some funy shit! i like her voice alot

[pimP sAuCy]

:ninja MIAUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUHISSSSS SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSM I A UUU. HEHE
"n u dont know u who talkin to" dang i was just playin with matches n the forest burnt down.guess i flew near home..
just messin g spot please dont mark me n make me unpopular n shunned by the "elite" :holy shit
:D some ppl take life way too serious.
plur to yalls mommys abel-

ps:hey,u just playin someone elses music-:monkey

[davidvictorscott]

Originally posted by king egorock
the reason i gravitated from hip hop to dnb was i was bored of expectations being imposed upon me to have to be involved in the culture.

To me culture is the very force which drives people to create new and innovative music. How we are living is directly reflected in our music.
So how can you be down with ghetto music if you cant relate to the ghetto. Replace "GHETTO" with "UNDERGROUND" if it better suits you, because they are one in the same.

RESPECT

[Pureform]

Originally posted by davidvictorscott


Replace "GHETTO" with "UNDERGROUND" if it better suits you, because they are one in the same.

RESPECT


I think of "underground" as being like a "secret operation", while "ghetto" means poor or run-down.
The underground can be very ghetto at times though.:( :domokun :crackhead

[squared]

My kitty's breath smells like kitty food.

[king egorock]

Originally posted by davidvictorscott


To me culture is the very force which drives people to create new and innovative music. How we are living is directly reflected in our music.
So how can you be down with ghetto music if you cant relate to the ghetto. Replace "GHETTO" with "UNDERGROUND" if it better suits you, because they are one in the same.

RESPECT


never said anything about ghetto or underground. i 've lived on my own since i was 15 and grew up on the strets of detroit, so i am very aware of "ghetto" if you will.
trailer parks are a form of ghetto. so by your definition of ghetto/undergruond what does that make bands like "korn" "kid rock" or "limp bizkit". are they underground as well?

to further my point i have inclued the webster's definition of "ghetto"
Main Entry: 1ghet·to
Pronunciation: 'ge-(")tO
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural ghettos also ghettoes
Etymology: Italian, from Venetian dialect ghèto island where Jews were forced to live, literally, foundry (located on the island), from ghetàr to cast, from Latin jactare to throw -- more at JET
Date: 1611
1 : a quarter of a city in which Jews were formerly required to live
2 : a quarter of a city in which members of a minority group live especially because of social, legal, or economic pressure
3 a : an isolated group <a geriatric ghetto> b : a situation that resembles a ghetto especially in conferring inferior status or limiting opportunity <stuck in daytime TV's ghetto>

2'd brush your kitty's teeth

[mS. ThAnG]

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PIMP SAUCY IS THE BIGGEST MORON OUT THERE. HIS COMMENTS ARE LAME AND ABOVE ALL MEANINGLESS. I FEEL AS THOUGH I AM SPEAKING TO A LITTLE 14 YR. OLD RAVER WHO HAS NOTHING BETTER TO DO BUT CAUSE PROBLEMS ON THIS BOARD!

ABEL, DID YOUR MOM TEACH YOU ANY REPECT OR TO JUST TO BE A BIG HATER?YOU PROBABLY SAY HER DOING THIS:beer AND SINCE YOU CAN'T STOP THAT YOU RESOLVE TO BEING A TOTAL :banana ..

AS ALWAYS PEACE

AND EAT NAKED!!!!!

[Pureform]

I think its a little sad that this thread has over 50 replies while "best things about our scene" has only 11 replies.:(

[Consumer]

good point. I'm closing it.