Skull & Bones....

[Mantis Claw]

Excerpt of a GNN interview with Alexandra Robbins about her recent book on the "Skull & Bones", the infamous Yale secret society.


So what is the big news that is deployed through this book? What are some of the key things to take away from it?


I think one of the most important things to take away from this book is that, unbeknownst to many people in America, Skull & Bones does exist. There is a small secret society in our country that has a disproportionate amount of influence on America, and that’s a disturbing thing. I think George W. Bush’s relationship with Skull & Bones is something that people need to know about. When the President of the United States is so influenced by a secret society, that’s something that should be bigger news than it’s been.


Totally… what’s Skull & Bones a metaphor for? The act of banning together to ensure that your people are going to be taken care of – whether it’s out of a need to survive or whether it’s out of a pre-hatched plan to dominate… What happens in Skull & Bones – the dynamics that govern the politics of getting in and so forth, we see that everywhere.


Certainly Skull & Bones represents an old boy network and that’s something that has always been part of the country and probably always will be. What’s different here is that this is such a tiny organization – there are only 15 people initiated each year, which means there are only about 800 living members at any one time, and yet this is a society that’s managed to spawn three Presidents of the United States, Supreme Court Chief Justices, Supreme Court Justices, cabinet members, congressmen, senators, CIA officials… the proportion is skewed. Why is such a tiny slice of America running the country throughout history? That’s really the question here.


And so do you see that the power of the Internet for example, or bringing to light all this through your book - that that’s going to hopefully change things?


I hope so. The point of Secrets of the Tomb was to spread awareness of Skull & Bones because the more people that know about it, the less power it will actually eventually have. The problem is that so many people are unwilling to accept that this secret society exists in the first place, that it’s difficult to be able to, say, confront the President about it. You’re not going to see someone in the press at this time raise their hand during a press conference and ask George W. Bush about his Skull & Bones experience. The hope is that if enough people read about Skull & Bones, they will force the media to speak about it, force people to confront the President and force the higher level authorities who are not in Skull & Bones to start tearing that kind of club down.


Why isn’t the journalistic community putting it to him – especially in lieu of his rising power?


Journalists really haven’t focused on how much Skull & Bones has influenced American politics. They don’t frequently look for members of Skull & Bones to watch how they ascend to certain levels in politics. They don’t monitor the President’s appointments to see whether he’s appointing members of Skull & Bones. That’s what I did. That’s something this book does that other people haven’t done. I think one reason we don’t see a lot of Skull & Bones in the media is because it’s so awash with conspiracy theories, that journalists are afraid that they will be branded as conspiracy theorists if the write anything about Skull & Bones.


Also there are Bonesmen at the head of many of the media institutions.


Right. Another reason we probably don’t see a lot of Skull & Bones in the media is because there are a lot of members of the secret society in various media outlets. Look at TIME magazine that was started by Henry Luce and Briton Hadden. Those were two Bonesmen who supposedly came up with the idea for TIME Incorporated in the Tomb. TIME Inc. is now one of the largest media empires in the country and we see that in other places as well. The Harrimans had a great influence on Newsweek. There are members of Skull & Bones at many journalistic outlets across the country and of course, they are not going to agree to write about their own secret society. In fact, at Yale for many years, Skull & Bones had a relationship with the campus media where they did not allow the campus media to write about Skull & Bones news. In May 2000, I wrote an article for the Atlantic Monthly on Skull & Bones and George W. Bush, and soonafter that article appeared. I received a call at my office at The New Yorker magazine from a journalist whom I knew to be a member of Skull & Bones. He started off the conversation very nicely. He said that my article was tremendously accurate, it was the most accurate article that Skull & Bones had seen, and if I wouldn’t mind, they would really like to just know who were the sources who talked to me. Well of course I wasn’t going to tell them that. But he kept going. He kept saying, “We just want to know who were the members of Skull & Bones who talked to you. It’s really important that we find this out.” I wasn’t giving. I told him I didn’t reveal my sources and that’s when he got angry. He berated me for writing the story, he said what I did was not an ethical thing to do, it wasn’t honorable journalism to write about Skull & Bones, he told me how upset the society was with me, and he ended the conversation by saying that, “There are a lot of us at journalism and political institutions across the country – good luck with your career!” And he slammed down the phone, insinuating that because at that time, I was just a 23 year old aspiring investigative reporter, that my career was shot simply because I had reported one article on Skull & Bones.


The funny thing is that conspiracy theorists don’t think I went far enough in the book. They don’t think I wrote enough about things like devil worship and there were a few reasons for that… I am sort of caught in the middle. On one hand, the conspiracy theorists are worried that because of my own society membership, I represent somehow Skull & Bones, which isn’t true. On the other side, a lot of journalism outlets won’t report on my book and may think differently of me because I reported on Skull & Bones in the first place. And this puts me in a sort of a limbo where I can’t win either way. Either I am a PR person for Skull & Bones who has been hired to spread disinformation, or I am a nut-job who is writing about a secret society that doesn’t have the kind of influence that I say it does…

[Pureform]

BIG UP THE SKULL & BONES KRU!:slayer :slayer :slayer

RUNNIN' THINGS PROPA IN the U.S.A.!:slayer :slayer

I say keep their "skull & bones" shit a secret....keep it pure and keep the media drama and public shit talkers out of their way. I'm sure they have good intentions for this country, i mean hell, they live here too, right?:up

[Mantis Claw]

Please tell me you are being sarcastic!!! :eek

[cpud]

they are supposedly linked to the Illuminati. They used to have a website and message board at http://oneworldorder.org :banana

[Pureform]

Originally posted by Mantis Claw
Please tell me you are being sarcastic!!! :eek

No im not. Its not like skull & bones is a bunch of serial killers and whacko's with some huge underground plan to fuck up the US.
They are accomplished and respected US citizens. Remeber...they live in the US just like you, im sure they have good intentions for the country they live in. So......put the bong away for a few days to get rid of some of that paranoia.:bounce :D

PEACE!

[Mantis Claw]

Did you read the post? I don't have a bong, do you have a brain or did you put that away?

Yeah they live in the U.S., but NOT like me or most others. They are the elite of the elite. A disproportionate number of people that sit at the head of our government. They call the shots and they serve their own interests. How can you be down for that? :snore

[Pureform]

Originally posted by Mantis Claw
Did you read the post? I don't have a bong, do you have a brain or did you put that away?

Yeah they live in the U.S., but NOT like me or most others. They are the elite of the elite. A disproportionate number of people that sit at the head of our government. They call the shots and they serve their own interests. How can you be down for that? :snore

I think you are jealous of them. You wish you were in that secret society so you could be callin your own shots. And if you were in that secret society, people would be saying the same shit you're saying right now....."They call the shots and they serve their own interests. How can you be down for that?"

Even if they are serving their own intrests, it might be an intrest of yours or a majority of the american people.

SO...........
http://www.dribbleglass.com/subpages/strange/headsup.jpg
Get your head out yer arse!:laughing :D :D

(you know thats funny):D

PEACE

[Mantis Claw]

So you just trust that these people who serve their own interests are going to look out for your interests. They havn't done it in the past, what will make them do it in the future. Vietnam served their interests and a lot of people died becuase of it. This is only one example.

[Pureform]

Yes i do trust them. I can sit back, relax, and trust them... or I can live my life being paranoid that our govt is trying to screw me over, searching for consperacy theories and anti-govt propaganda. How i live my life wont affect how skull & bones lives theirs. They are keeping it a secret because they dont want people flipping out worrying that theres some "secret underground govt devil worshipping society". If I was paranoid about anything, it would be some other country's government trying to screw us over.:rolleyes

[Mantis Claw]

:rolleyes indeed.

[some guy]

pureform? are you on crack?
this country is a DEMOCRACY! meanin' that the voice of every citizen counts, now when 5% of the country controls 95 percent of the wealth and another 1% of that 5% controls them, that means 800 peeps control the government and the decisions of that government, now, that does NOT sound like a democracy to me, yet there is nothing ilegal about it there is something morally wrong with it, i mean aren't you supposed to take responsibility for the actions of this government? what the fuck are you an autonotom? i mean we do all have the right to participate(un less your a fellon, or a resident alien) so that makes it our duty to do so and eliminate such a groups power. i mean if it were really that this system doesn't work any more our constitution says to remove it........... so either get voting, or wait untill those 800 peeps make it so bad and so controlled that this country turns in to stalinistic russia, i mean it is already, look at what we are doing to the muslim population, and look at what we did to the japanese during world war 2, look at what our govenment does to anybody that is not adjusted to white culture and the working ethics that that culture has imposed...............

basically, take the power back!

[phatmikedog]

In my opinion, if 800 people are running a country and it allows me all of the freedoms I have (even to talk shit about them like some guy, or write an article about them in a small independent publication), i don't feel compelled to take the power back. We live in a democratic republic, which means we choose which people get this power and they vote on every issue so we can post reply's and spin jungle all day. Oh yea, and Tyler posted the thread saying that everyone should get off their lazy asses and vote. I personally gained something much different from that article than anger. :crackhead

[Flagrant]

Originally posted by some guy
pureform? are you on crack?
this country is a DEMOCRACY! meanin' that the voice of every citizen counts, now when 5% of the country controls 95 percent of the wealth and another 1% of that 5% controls them, that means 800 peeps control the government and the decisions of that government, now, that does NOT sound like a democracy to me, yet there is nothing ilegal about it there is something morally wrong with it, i mean aren't you supposed to take responsibility for the actions of this government? what the fuck are you an autonotom? i mean we do all have the right to participate(un less your a fellon, or a resident alien) so that makes it our duty to do so and eliminate such a groups power. i mean if it were really that this system doesn't work any more our constitution says to remove it........... so either get voting, or wait untill those 800 peeps make it so bad and so controlled that this country turns in to stalinistic russia, i mean it is already, look at what we are doing to the muslim population, and look at what we did to the japanese during world war 2, look at what our govenment does to anybody that is not adjusted to white culture and the working ethics that that culture has imposed...............

basically, take the power back!

You don't know what the hell you're talking about! There's no vote on this issue. And tell me how these people have affected your life. You people have to much time on your hands...:down :down

[Fractal]

either way, i control mah life, and that'll do for now...

just something i was thinking about when i saw "Skull & bones":
did you know the Templar naval flag was the skull & bones most people assosiate with pirates these days? when the Templars were forced to leave England they created the flag to give scare to any patroling ships... the templars are the ancestors of the freemasons, and the freemasons have put forth 39 of our presidents... in fact all the sigs on the decleration of independence are freemasons...FACT. also george washington was sworn into office in full mason uniform... connection? maybe... if so it would seem they started the country...

just a thought:crackhead

keep searching




ps... is everyone on the bong paranoid? i thought we didnt give a fuck... its so hard to live up to yalls expectations...

[phatmikedog]

On the mason tip...

My friend Rayne told me a story about when she was a little girl... Her mom sold Avon with a lady married to a Mason in northern Arizona and the lady had her and a bunch of kids over and dressed them up in ballroom gowns and had a tea party with them in her mansion just for fun...

Also there's that episode of the Simpson's...

[serota]

ok, first off...

i doubt anyone's going to HONESTLY read this post and give a fuck, but i'll put in my 2 cents anyhow.

where is the proof or tangible evidence of this supposed "skull and bones" secret society?? yes, there are "theories," but who can honestly believe something based on a hypothetical conclusion? i think the whole thing is ridiculous, and anyone that can be that easily influenced should seriously reconsider their logical thought process.

however, offer me some valid evidence that this organization does in fact exist, and i may change my opinion. until then, i think it's a crock of shit. just leave the rich folk alone, man. why are the successful people always the culprits?

[beta]

on one hand its everyone whos in the club is set for life.. but on the other its not like they're trying to kill off the middle class :fu :beer :rotfl

[some guy]

ok, you guys just dont get it, i guess none of you read in school, like remeber 1984?
also i guess that ol logical idea of the needs of the many out number the needs of the few doesn't apply...
the reason i say this when in conjunction with what i said before is that with such groups in power who is above them? the aliens?
i mean think bout it for a second in this country you have the bone and skull, the free masons and any other number of groups which have political agendas, along with their power in media, law(enforcement and making), industry, and not to mention religous orginazations whose to say these groups don't affect your life?
human beings may have freedom of choice(or so we think..) but that choice is skewed by our religon, upbringing, political beliefs, television, movies, music, and anything else you can think of that is in your environment. this all effects you, so a small group which has control controls you! i mean all you may care about is dropping your drum and bass, yet in a country like russia when stalin ruled, you wouldn't have the money or time because because the controlling group thinks that you should werk and reproduce and that's it......making you a criminal....
now whats to say that these groups in power won't become that way, i mean if you can change the laws and the constitution you can repeal the bill of rights and basically put us back to how the slaves were treated, and i personally will fight for my rights through voting out these fucks and voting in peeps whom arenot right wing facists who belong to these groups, to secure my self a future with out controll. really look at today they are trying to get a home land security act passed, which will have ceartin industrial workers and utility workers watching peeps for "suspicous" behavior, now what is going to stop them there?
that could imply phone taps on peeps houses because of religous beliefs, or survelliance of you if you are a voice of dissent, or hows about if you want to take out a book say on something that is watched by these peeps like nuclear fusion, you get watched!
is that ok?
would that be something that you'll turn your head to and drop your records while it's going on?
cause next it could be you?
and i mean you will argue this by saying" i dont care about nic. fusion" or the gaf" this is the greatest country in the world!"(i agree with this is the greatest country) but we could make it better. we could be more free we could be left of this strangle hold of media and industry. look at the romans they got to a point and got stagnant with how their society opperated and died from it, and these groups are trying to keep our lives the way they have been for the past 100 years, cant we move on to new shiz? isn't it time that the need for military to dominate the world, and cars to rush our selves to work on time and media to filter the information we get to dissapate? is it not time to stop paying jordan a million dollars a year and start to give that money to scientists who are fightnig disease, and who are trying to get us to the stars? is it not time to stop worshiping icons and be our own? is it not time for us to movepast religon's and realize that every creature created knows right and wrong and to create a mythical god to embody the good and a devil to embody hte bad is like believeing in the f"ing tooth fairy!

point blank, read 1984 again and you will see what i mean, the fact that a privlaged few can control the masses makes what ever rights they grant futile, we should be giving ourselves the rights not being gratned them..............

[rephlektiv]

that society isn't all it is today as it was back in the day -- it's more of a fraternity on the yale campus than anything else in present day.. and a laughing stock of the school.. -- people claim a bunch of "crews" in the end.. there will always be powers of authority that run the society.. i.e. mafia, politics, favors etc --

life/society/world all comes down to one thing in the end.. doing other people "favors" -- which ironically coincides with the golden rule.

so go help as many people as you can in life, enjoy the rewards it brings you back, and stop whining about others who benefit from the rewards of -their- favors =)

everyone who has a powerful position in society today obtained it via friendships/networking/favors -- they are there for a reason.. *shrug*

[Mantis Claw]

Originally posted by rephlektiv
that society isn't all it is today as it was back in the day -- it's more of a fraternity on the yale campus than anything else in present day.. and a laughing stock of the school.. -- people claim a bunch of "crews" in the end.. there will always be powers of authority that run the society.. i.e. mafia, politics, favors etc --

life/society/world all comes down to one thing in the end.. doing other people "favors" -- which ironically coincides with the golden rule.

so go help as many people as you can in life, enjoy the rewards it brings you back, and stop whining about others who benefit from the rewards of -their- favors =)

everyone who has a powerful position in society today obtained it via friendships/networking/favors -- they are there for a reason.. *shrug*

You are so right, but we are speaking in the context of our government. It seems that there should be transparency within our gov. with who does what and why they do it. The reality is that our gov./industry/religions are not transparent because they have many things to hide (very little of it having to do with national security). The reason I posted this thread is because this needs to be discussed amongst the people of this country. People at least need to know of the existence of these groups (Serota they are fo' real). The issue needs to be discussed and contemplated. We ask "well how does that effect me and you?", good question. It needs to be asked and truely reflected upon. Just becuase you have it good in this country at the moment does not mean that it will stay that way, especially if you don't take a good look at what is going on. Don't you think it would make sense to appease (sp?) the people who have the power to change the status quo? If the people who can change things are convinced that nothing needs to change becuase their little environment is comfortable, well then those that stand to benifit the most have been successfull in tricking the masses. Now all they have to do is rewrite the laws while everyone is distracted with whatever the media chooses. So when it comes time for the masses to wake up, the law will no longer be on their side. Hey get your free chip implant. Free chips to the first 100,000 people. Sounds like some conspirousy bullshit.... right?

[cpud]

Originally posted by serota
ok, first off...

i doubt anyone's going to HONESTLY read this post and give a fuck, but i'll put in my 2 cents anyhow.

where is the proof or tangible evidence of this supposed "skull and bones" secret society?? yes, there are "theories," but who can honestly believe something based on a hypothetical conclusion? i think the whole thing is ridiculous, and anyone that can be that easily influenced should seriously reconsider their logical thought process.

however, offer me some valid evidence that this organization does in fact exist, and i may change my opinion. until then, i think it's a crock of shit. just leave the rich folk alone, man. why are the successful people always the culprits?

they DO exist, however their ties to the Illuminati are rumors... "The sacred trust of the security of our civilization rests on the shoulders of The Illuminati Order" was the slogan on their old website, but like I said before that is down now.

If you want more info on the Yale Skull & Bones club, visit this link: http://www.parascope.com/articles/0997/skullbones.htm

that site pretty much breaks it down from its inception up to today... check it out :up

[rephlektiv]

Originally posted by rephlektiv
that society isn't all it is today as it was back in the day -- it's more of a fraternity on the yale campus than anything else in present day.. and a laughing stock of the school.. -- people claim a bunch of "crews" in the end.. there will always be powers of authority that run the society.. i.e. mafia, politics, favors etc --

life/society/world all comes down to one thing in the end.. doing other people "favors" -- which ironically coincides with the golden rule.

so go help as many people as you can in life, enjoy the rewards it brings you back, and stop whining about others who benefit from the rewards of -their- favors =)

everyone who has a powerful position in society today obtained it via friendships/networking/favors -- they are there for a reason.. *shrug*

But the ideas/thoughts/concepts you present are nothing new than what William Cooper presented in his publication of Behold A Pale Horse 20+ years ago..

Considering the powers that are at work here.. granted, there are plenty of shady people in office.. but it has been that way since the first president took office.. it's what politics are all about in the end.

Our Country has survived that way for over 200 years using these methods.. and we seem to be doing good. If you're posing the question of "wouldn't it be better if our government and society wasn't so closed doors." -- and that's a legit hypothetical question --

I would argue that as much as the public wants to know about everything going on in the government.. half the people would flip out if they knew.. The U.S.A. shooting down our own civilian airplanes, assassinating our own politicians/presidents, trying to make a "utopian society".. tons of ideas that would start an uproar of riot/rage if they admitted to any of it.. causing even more problems.

Then consider "well the government should do everything by the book" -- contemplate that for a second.. how many times have you gotten a favor done by a friend to help a task/project you were working on.. to get it done quicker and on time -- the exchange of favors and pulling of strings in government tends to help us more than anything.. -- granted, there are bad apples.. but there will always be bad apples. By the book means done right, but who's to say that book was written correctly in the first place.

[Fractal]

Originally posted by rephlektiv
...By the book means done right, but who's to say that book was written correctly in the first place.

i like that:p

[rephlektiv]

Originally posted by cpud


they DO exist, however their ties to the Illuminati are rumors... "The sacred trust of the security of our civilization rests on the shoulders of The Illuminati Order" was the slogan on their old website, but like I said before that is down now.

If you want more info on the Yale Skull & Bones club, visit this link: http://www.parascope.com/articles/0997/skullbones.htm

that site pretty much breaks it down from its inception up to today... check it out :up

They are still around - no denying that.. but i doubt they are as powerful as they used to be.. but who am i to say, i'm not in it.

I do have a few friends that are in it, and if they're the ones that are gonna rule the world one day.. well shit! *moves to mars*

[rephlektiv]

In regards to Orthodox government:

http://intelligence.senate.gov/0210hrg/021017/hayden.pdf

Read section 11 of their Introduction from the testimony from NSA Director Michael Hayden.. where he talks about how they received reports and information about terrorist attacks on 9/11 - but because of processing and proper procedures.. they weren't able to file them until 9/12 -- what if.. they did get the reports filed in time by not going by the book? Orthodox isn't always the best..

[Dub-U-Eff]

Originally posted by Mantis Claw
They call the shots and they serve their own interests. How can you be down for that? :snore Werd!!! This country's not SUPPOSED to be about a couple of elitists running everything...It's supposed to be about the people running their own country...That's why you wanted everyone to go out and vote, remember? Sadly, the founding principals of our country are quickly dying due to the greed of a whole lot of greed/power/money...But, then again, I guess that is what the human race is all about.

[Mantis Claw]

Just some people in the human race (if they are even human), I will step out on a limb to say most humans are not all about greed and self serving interests.

[<RAW>]

I live right in front of this one eerie masonic temple and I always wonder what it looks like inside.....I was going to post up some pics but need a digital camera.....if someone wants to tkae pictures of it and post it ill tell you where its located.



PEACE

[shabda]

was a 32 nd degree mason in the scottish rite at dansville. There is no major conspiracy here they are the true patriots and the true god fearing humans. Dont get it twisted!!! My grandfather served in WWW 2 against Nazi germany and never ever took one weeks veterans benefits. He never missed a single day of work even if he was deathly ill. If you ask me ... WE are the problem. We are fucking lazy ass bastards who have no fuckin respect for hierarchy. I aint talkin skull n bones or illuminati. I am talking the true patriots the true hierarchy. That of the LIGHT!!! My great uncle Rev. Forest Light (R>I>P) was also of a secret brotherhood whos origin goes back pre history, pre-pyramids. The Roscruscians. Like the masons they have knowledges and wisdom of techniques in building and in paranormal fields, such as, telekenesis, telepathy, and astral projection. I dont feel to reach enlightenment necesarely means to attain something NEW but rather a REMEMBRANCE of something we were meant forget a long time ago. We all have found this music for some reason or another. I found jungle/drum n bass for two reasons LIGHT and SOUND energy. These energies will be the savior of mankind one day so dont fucking sleep on that shit. The true JAH WARRIORS will be around after 2012! BIG UP THE LIGHT AND SOUND MASSIVE!!!

[kid kryptic]

anyone wanna play spades?