Fuck France!

[NextLevel]

:foff

[Polytrickster]

ooops!

[Dub-U-Eff]

werd to thathttp://141.157.157.99/Gary/libertyfinger.jpg

[Preecha]

But I dunno about the God bless America part :)

[Katie/007]

France gave us the Statue of Liberty. So those pictures really don't represent your feelings.

[Dub-U-Eff]

Originally posted by Katie/007
France gave us the Statue of Liberty. So those pictures really don't represent your feelings. that was kinda the point

[viXen]

I'm part french, so don't be dissin' on the french!

That means I can kiss good. But I do shave my armpits.

[Consumer]

Yeah... the photo is supposed to point out irony and hypocrisy.

[nikalodeeun]

why the fuck don't you move this thread to politics deepfreq...
now i remember why i stopped posting on here

[NextLevel]

sorry all... I thought that the level of sarcasm and irony was blatantly obvious. Stupid me


BTW that pic represents how I feel more than almost anything I can think of.

[cpud]

Originally posted by Preecha
But I dunno about the God bless America part :)

Outrageous. :down :down :down

[cpud]

and fuck the French. As General Patton said, "I'd rather have a German division in front of me than a French division behind me..."

[Consumer]

Originally posted by nikalodeeun
why the fuck don't you move this thread to politics deepfreq...
now i remember why i stopped posting on here

Because its in "general discussion".

[abacus]

Why are we dissing the French the most? Germany is against the war just as much as the French. Mexico's government and people have blatantly said that we are wrongdoers. Yet people are only mad at the French. I read that the majority of the UK public doesn't even support our war, only their government does.

[Polytrickster]

Originally posted by abacus
I read that the majority of the UK public doesn't even support our war, only their government does.

Whoa, that's a gross miscalculation.

[Polytrickster]

Truth is France and Germany, along with Russia have been selling things they shouldn't be to Saddam. They didn't want us to find out. It has little to do with the moral issue of going to war.

[cpud]

and with regards to France, they owe us plain and simple. Bastards.

[Dub-U-Eff]

Originally posted by nikalodeeun
why the fuck don't you move this thread to politics deepfreq...
now i remember why i stopped posting on here Bwahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Dub-U-Eff]

Originally posted by Polytrickster
Truth is France and Germany, along with Russia have been selling things they shouldn't be to Saddam. They didn't want us to find out. It has little to do with the moral issue of going to war. I figured it was because of the jealousy which has been brewing for years over our much higher inteligence factor......



























and because they don't have barstool racinghttp://www.spankhersadventures.com/Tour/Games/015.jpg

[IonSant]

Yeah fuck france! i saw a movie with this dood named
rocco who did a lot of that uppty booty thinggy to frenchie gals.

quite an amazing stun

))---) (( "O

[Danielle V]

Originally posted by cpud
and with regards to France, they owe us plain and simple. Bastards.

how come people always forget that if it werent for the french bailing US out, we'd still be brits? Sure, we've liberated them now and again, but they gave us the opportunity to do that by saving our asses in the 1700s.

and how can you honestly blame all french, russians, and germans for the supposed self interests of their leaders? Arent we the ones with the second leader from oil-rich texas in the past three presidential terms going to war with the #1 oil producing country in the world?

all im saying is: before we start pointing the finger at other countries for what it appears is their alterior motive, isnt it wise to look at what it appears is our nation's personal alterior motive?

[Vada]

Because....
it's the American way of life to point fingers and hate a group of people because of the way they look/feel/act/say/do. It's been going on since we revolted against England. The Constitution allows us to do all of this without even having to back up what we say with fact or reason. Land of the free....and ignorant.

[Polytrickster]

Originally posted by Danielle V
how come people always forget that if it werent for the french bailing US out, we'd still be brits? Sure, we've liberated them now and again, but they gave us the opportunity to do that by saving our asses in the 1700s.

and how can you honestly blame all french, russians, and germans for the supposed self interests of their leaders? Arent we the ones with the second leader from oil-rich texas in the past three presidential terms going to war with the #1 oil producing country in the world?

all im saying is: before we start pointing the finger at other countries for what it appears is their alterior motive, isnt it wise to look at what it appears is our nation's personal alterior motive?

Ulterior motives aren't issue here. All the ulterior motives in the world won't change the fact that Saddam and his regime are guilty of violating serious internaional laws. France, German and Russia were, in so many words, saying "We don't care about international laws, let an evil man and his regime obtain weapons of mass destruction and destroy millions of innocent lives."

Now when you bring ulterior motives into the mix you get France, Germany and Russia selling them these things. The SAME things they are NOT supposed to have. Their ulterior motives lead to the breaking of international law. What ever nasty ulterior motives our government has in works 1) adheres to international law and 2) frees a nation of oppressed people.

So, in summary, US ulterior motives (whether it be greed, oil, or whatever) lead to the freedom of (the Iraqi) people. That sounds pretty good to me.

And the ulterior motives of France, Germany and Russia lead to Saddam aquiring weapons that have the soul purpose of DESTROYING millions of lives.

Hmmm.....save lives....destroy lives.... That may be a hard one for some of you.

Once again, ulterior motives are not the issue, discussions of such things simply cloud the truth.

[Vada]

But you can't take a look at the big picture without seeing the details too. Whatever the motive may be, it's still part of the cause/effect syndrome. Everything must be taken into consideration or else you are hindering yourself from......the truth.

Just as you have taken the previous actions by Russia, France, Germany (don't forget China) and based your opinion on those facts presented to you, you must also take into consideration what the US is doing at present and their reasons for the actions and that effect will come of it (besides the freedom of Iraq-if that happens).

[cpud]

Originally posted by Danielle V
how come people always forget that if it werent for the french bailing US out, we'd still be brits? Sure, we've liberated them now and again, but they gave us the opportunity to do that by saving our asses in the 1700s.

and how can you honestly blame all french, russians, and germans for the supposed self interests of their leaders? Arent we the ones with the second leader from oil-rich texas in the past three presidential terms going to war with the #1 oil producing country in the world?

all im saying is: before we start pointing the finger at other countries for what it appears is their alterior motive, isnt it wise to look at what it appears is our nation's personal alterior motive?

our motive is safety. the USA is not going to seize any of the oil fields in Iraq, contrary to what the critics of this operation claim. The UN will be there every step of the way.

And as far as the French go, we paid them back for helping us many times. World War II is the most recent, and I still feel they owe us bigtime for that.

Also, they claim to be an ally. Last time i checked, allies help their fellow allies in times of need. France is not doing this, and therefore has put our 'friendly' relationship with that nation in jeopardy.

[cpud]

Originally posted by Polytrickster
Ulterior motives aren't issue here. All the ulterior motives in the world won't change the fact that Saddam and his regime are guilty of violating serious internaional laws. France, German and Russia were, in so many words, saying "We don't care about international laws, let an evil man and his regime obtain weapons of mass destruction and destroy millions of innocent lives."

Now when you bring ulterior motives into the mix you get France, Germany and Russia selling them these things. The SAME things they are NOT supposed to have. Their ulterior motives lead to the breaking of international law. What ever nasty ulterior motives our government has in works 1) adheres to international law and 2) frees a nation of oppressed people.

So, in summary, US ulterior motives (whether it be greed, oil, or whatever) lead to the freedom of (the Iraqi) people. That sounds pretty good to me.

And the ulterior motives of France, Germany and Russia lead to Saddam aquiring weapons that have the soul purpose of DESTROYING millions of lives.

Hmmm.....save lives....destroy lives.... That may be a hard one for some of you.

Once again, ulterior motives are not the issue, discussions of such things simply cloud the truth.

:up :up :up nice one

[Danielle V]

Originally posted by Polytrickster
Ulterior motives aren't issue here. All the ulterior motives in the world won't change the fact that Saddam and his regime are guilty of violating serious internaional laws. France, German and Russia were, in so many words, saying "We don't care about international laws, let an evil man and his regime obtain weapons of mass destruction and destroy millions of innocent lives."

Now when you bring ulterior motives into the mix you get France, Germany and Russia selling them these things. The SAME things they are NOT supposed to have. Their ulterior motives lead to the breaking of international law. What ever nasty ulterior motives our government has in works 1) adheres to international law and 2) frees a nation of oppressed people.
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where did you hear that france, russia, and germany are selling weapons of mass destruction to iraq? thats the dumbest thing ive ever heard. recently, as of 4 days ago, there has been speculation that a PRIVATE russian manufacturing company- NOT the country itself- has been supplying iraq with weapons. but thats speculation, Russia is investigating this as its just come to their attention. France and Germany do not have the capability to be formitable weapons suppliers to rouge nations. It wouldnt happen. where did you get that anyway? im curious.
-d

[cpud]

i dont think he meant that those nation were selling weapons of mass destruction to Iraq, rather that those nations have helped support Saddam's regime in one way or another.

An example is Iraq's air force, which consists of primarily French-made aircraft sold to Saddam by the French government.

[MR.NORIEGA]

Theres a book by the name of "I built bombs for saddam"I was watching the Charlie Rose show a few weeks back and in this interview a scientist who exiled from Iraq was talking about how France and Germany have been making billions of dollars of the Iraqian government since the late 80's,he goes on to say that france,germany have taxed iraq four to five times more for weapons and information on how to make chemical and nuc agents.The reason they were charged more than four to five the market price was because it was considered high risk transactions,this man was the head of the nuc program from88-95 when he left the country his entire family except his eldest son were executed thats a big reason france and germany are the 2 biggest opponents to this war ther going to lose billions upon billions due to this war.

[cpud]

Originally posted by MR.NORIEGA
Theres a book by the name of "I built bombs for saddam"I was watching the Charlie Rose show a few weeks back and in this interview a scientist who exiled from Iraq was talking about how France and Germany have been making billions of dollars of the Iraqian government since the late 80's,he goes on to say that france,germany have taxed iraq four to five times more for weapons and information on how to make chemical and nuc agents.The reason they were charged more than four to five the market price was because it was considered high risk transactions,this man was the head of the nuc program from88-95 when he left the country his entire family exept his eldest son were executed thats a big reason france and germany are the 2 biggest opponents to this war ther going to lose billions upon billions due to this war.

i want to know why the anti war people aren't bringing this foward, money talks... you know the rest.

[Castor]

I had some nice hot tasty freedom fries earlier today. mMMmMMMmm


FUCK FRANCE

[cpud]

GO TEAM AMERICA :slayer :slayer :slayer

[MR.NORIEGA]

OH FUCK YA